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Watch Sam Seder Stomp Silly Libertarian! (VIDEO)

I don’t want to ruin this video by explaining too much about it–you just have to hear how deranged and delusional this libertarian caller is for yourself.  These people truly live in some sort of fantasy land!

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10 comments

  1. This guy sounds drunk or high.

  2. WOW…this poor dude is absolutely clueless. Libertarians are completely out of touch with reality. They used to be very different and more sane. Now it is filled with those who don’t read books. EVER.

    • Barter does predate currency, but the problem between these two debaters is a lack of language two describe much of their argumentation. Sam is trying to emphasize that there was no “market” in the macroeconomic sense; in other words, there has never been an organized system of barter run by social groups. Instead, what history and anthropology show us is that bartering occured ad hoc between individuals with no order, no system…with only their mutual survival and sustainability in mind. This is an important distinction, because the argument the libertarian fellow is trying to make is that barter predates currency and actually represents his/their notions of a “free market”. But since there was a lack of systemic organization to the system of barter present in colonial or precolonial America, you only have microeconomic examples of barter used between disparate social groups. It may sound like nit-picking, but this is what is missing from Sam’s verbiage that might have made his point more clear to the average folks out there. Again, it’s the specific lack of broader, or macroeconomic organization of the old barter system that makes it such a bad comparison to a “market system”. Markets are indeed created, stimulated, constrained, and controlled by state powers. This has always been true since the invention of currency.

  3. I honestly feel bad for this guy. I hope his stupidity is not contagious

  4. Wow, this guy is once again showing what a limited understanding of history he, and other libertarians, have. Lost in the now, lost in their own sense of selfishness, they lack a realization of just why libertarianism is a fantasy.

  5. Let this guy get stuck in a disaster, and see how fast he yells for government assistance.

    How about he exercise his freedom and not work for a living?

  6. Sam Seder amply demonstrates that it is pointless to attempt to have a genuine discussion with a mental midget. The caller just simply didn’t know what he is talking about. He has obviously gobbled up lots of canned verbiage about freedoms and somehow thinks that, despite the fact that we live in an extraordinarily complex and sophisticated society in which most of our basic needs are assured, we can have those advantages yet nonetheless invoke our right to live in the “state of nature”, throwing off rules and responsibilities that “I’m not cool with, man, because I want my freedom.. This boneheaded idiot wouldn’t last a single day in the state of nature. He’d be crying about where the nearest Starbuck’s is.

  7. Howard Phillips

    I have to admit I could only watch a little over 5 minute of this. It was like a 25 watt bulb (Sam) beating up on a 20 watt bulb (the caller) for not being bright enough. Sam’s assertion that libertarians would do away with roads is ridiculous. Either he does not understand the concept of public goods or he was simply ignoring the fact that creation and maintenance of roads has been a government function since the first gathering of men into a governmental state. As for the idea that libertarians would also do away with building codes, a straw man at best. Building codes have been around since the Code of Hammurabi in 1770 BC, the idea that libertarians or any one else would abandon them is fare beyond the pale.

    Do not assume this caller represents the ideas or intellect of the Libertarian Party, or libertarians at all. If I had to take a guess, I would say that Sam’s call screener recognized this guy as an idiot looking for a fight, and that it was a fight Sam could easily win and that was the only reason this guy made it on the cast at all. Its common for this trick to be used by all the big name players in conservative talk radio. If you have the stomach to listen to those guys (I don’t) and heard someone try to ‘fight the good fight’ for some point you believe in, but you can’t fathom how they came up with such tortured and bad logic to come to their beliefs, now you know how and why they got on the air.

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